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Comments on: Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he? https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/ Purity * Truth * Beauty Sun, 20 Oct 2019 00:13:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.3 By: Lekisha Pear https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/#comment-765964 Sun, 20 Oct 2019 00:13:14 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-765964 Scottish Parliament committee news release Archived 9 November 2005 at the Wayback Machine 22 February 2001 “So perhaps there is a slight Mandy Rice Davies feel to this backing with a hint of ‘well he would, wouldn’t he?’.”

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By: Fostering Permeability in Academia – ProfHacker - Blogs - The Chronicle of Higher Education http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/fostering-permeability-in-academia/62945 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:20:28 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-730301 Fostering Permeability in Academia – ProfHacker – Blogs – The Chronicle of Higher Education mentioned this article on chronicle.com.

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By: dkernohan https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/#comment-729916 Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:54:29 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729916 In reply to Maha Bali.

I’m reading this as a question about narrowcasting in online publication (apols if I’m taking things the wrong way). The post above represents pretty much how I communicate on a day to day basis – seriously, it does! ask @VivienRolfe! Obviously it is going to be in the language of the “elite” sub-culture I am postulating, as that is the sub-culture I most closely identify this. Why is interesting, as I’m an administrator not an academic….

I do worry about taking on the voice of a culture I don’t have a connection to – it feels like ventriloquism, like cultural appropriation and inserting my voice as a proxy for an “authentic” intervention in a conversation. All I can do is flag where an intervention is needed, and then amplify that as best I can – when I overstep that, I do feel very uncomfortable.

But “authenticity” is a concept that is increasingly giving me cause for concern – are we talking about lived (physical) experience or a decision (be it conscious, unconscious, serious, ironic…) to identify? Or – more likely – both, in some mixture. President-elect Trump’s “authenticity” is seen as an electoral advantage … what does that mean? Who or what is The Donald authentic to? How? Why?

So if I’m problematising authenticity you’d better believe I’m on thin ice if I think I’m using “conspiracy theory” in a neutral sense to describe a set of narrative conventions! Using open education (or indeed, I love your suggestion of education theory) as an example is me trying to subvert that by applying it to a belief system that manyboth of my likely audience hold in order to give myself the Derridian space to play with the tension therein. But this is a trick I only know how to do within my own sub-cultural milieu. How anyone else would take it, I’m not sure.

I’m glad you liked the post, and can only apologise that most of my writing is roughly as awful as this, and that I don’t tend to stick on a single subject for long.

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By: ℳąhą Bąℓi مها بالي https://twitter.com/Bali_Maha/status/782486796013805568 Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:46:04 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729870 And a comment for @dkernohan awaiting moderation followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-…

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By: Maha Bali https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/#comment-729868 Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:45:35 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729868 I have had this tab open in my browser for some time now (could be hours or days) but am unsure how this is the first time I read you. So maybe my response will be overenthusiastic as this is probably the kind of thing you normally write. Here goes:
So this is brilliantly argued and even without appeal to authority, it is still argued in our elite ways (the ones we use for blogs to make them academic and not for academic articles where we need to cite those authorities). I love the example of open education as narrative of resistance as conspiracy theory that does exactly everything we “accuse” those we disagree with as doing… In that sense, critical pedagogy is conspiracy theory. Oh wait, that’s what positivists in education and educational research really believe. In objective worlds and Truths instead of relative interpretations and truths.

So here’s the thing, though. As much as I love this post and what it’s getting at… I have to say you cannot use a value-laden term like “conspiracy theory”, claim to have made it neutral, and just move forward. We don’t remove baggage from words that way and even though you are turning that term on your own self and critiquing “us” the “elite” (even recognizing urself as white male cis etc. and myself as….not…but definitely seeing myself as included because I know I am in there somewhere and am an academic etc) – would anyone who isn’t “us” be able to read this and nod? Can or would you write it in some location where “they” are meant to find it?

I say this as I have a small project in my mind right now….where I am about to publish something in an Arab Higher ed magazine to call for ideas but where I also need to publish something somewhere Western to get these ideas heard…and where if I published any of it for a non-academic audience it would still sound like gibberish. Which is OK for THAT topic coz it’s academically focused. But are topics like Open Ed meant to address a broader audience (the learners over whose learning we feel responsible? Their parents?) and do we ever really address them in our discourses? This gives me a brilliant idea that I should blog about. One day 😉

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By: ℳąhą Bąℓi مها بالي https://twitter.com/Bali_Maha/status/782484167611277312 Sun, 02 Oct 2016 07:35:38 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729871 Conspiracy theory as resistance narrative. Now that’s postmodern @dkernohan followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-…

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By: Clint Lalonde https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/#comment-729812 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:41:46 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729812 In reply to D’Arcy Norman.

How do we make confirmation bias a core topic in primary school?

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By: (((Chris Jobling))) https://twitter.com/cpjobling/status/780324870123036672 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 08:35:21 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729645 Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he? – FOLLOWERS OF THE APOCALYPSE nzzl.us/Je8dzwD via @nuzzel thanks @dkernohan

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By: Tanya Dorey-Elias https://followersoftheapocalyp.se/well-he-would-say-that-wouldnt-he/#comment-729626 Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:40:16 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729626 This all makes good sense to me, as does D’Arcy’s comment above. We’ve got really complex systems built on layers of historical legacy (much of which is really, really ugly). The only thing I know for sure is that path from this mess to something better will not be a straight line.

Now, if you could just please advocate for shared datasets as a place for “us” to start challenging our assumptions and finding common ground with “them”, it would be appreciated 😉

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By: Javiera Atenas https://twitter.com/dkernohan/status/780047861052506112#favorited-by-88178223 Sun, 25 Sep 2016 21:55:57 +0000 http://followersoftheapocalyp.se/?p=1909#comment-729622 Javiera Atenas liked this article on twitter.com.

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